I think it's easy, when we've grown up with this sort of stuff, to forget that there are people who haven't.
Yes - and it's a quite startling thing when you're talking to someone and suddenly realise they actually have never seen a Dalek before.
it's safe to assume that there are people who don't watch/aren't familiar with sci-fi in the Whoniverse and that Donna's one of them.
Definitely a safe assumption, yeah, just not one that had occurred to me till now.
just wanting it can never prepare anyone for the reality of it.
And less so when you're not used to thinking about these things. I mean, now that I'm thinking about it, Donna probably had a completely different idea of what aliens were, before she met any, than Martha and Rose did, and as far as temporal dynamics go, she really is starting completely from scratch. We have all these arguments on the comm about how time works and she's never even needed to think about it before!
I wonder if some of it is also due to the fact that Donnna's older and more settled in her ways than either Rose or Martha.
Less impressionable, yeah, she definitely is.
I said this over at the rewatch comm, but I don't think it helped that Ten didn't explain things very well. The argument "because I say so" isn't going to work well on someone like Donna
And that's true, but her being so confrontational about it didn't help as far as motivating him to explain it either. It's just a whole big clusterfrell, isn't it?
it did make him look a bit unsympathetic and dictatorial.
I suppose. Maybe this is another of those "everyone else puts themselves in the companion's place and I don't" things. Cos while I can see how you see that, I sort of... I dunno, the words aren't quite coming. But I generally can see where he's coming from better than where the companion is, whether it's Donna or Rose or Rory.
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Date: 2010-11-17 08:19 am (UTC)Yes - and it's a quite startling thing when you're talking to someone and suddenly realise they actually have never seen a Dalek before.
it's safe to assume that there are people who don't watch/aren't familiar with sci-fi in the Whoniverse and that Donna's one of them.
Definitely a safe assumption, yeah, just not one that had occurred to me till now.
just wanting it can never prepare anyone for the reality of it.
And less so when you're not used to thinking about these things. I mean, now that I'm thinking about it, Donna probably had a completely different idea of what aliens were, before she met any, than Martha and Rose did, and as far as temporal dynamics go, she really is starting completely from scratch. We have all these arguments on the comm about how time works and she's never even needed to think about it before!
I wonder if some of it is also due to the fact that Donnna's older and more settled in her ways than either Rose or Martha.
Less impressionable, yeah, she definitely is.
I said this over at the rewatch comm, but I don't think it helped that Ten didn't explain things very well. The argument "because I say so" isn't going to work well on someone like Donna
And that's true, but her being so confrontational about it didn't help as far as motivating him to explain it either. It's just a whole big clusterfrell, isn't it?
it did make him look a bit unsympathetic and dictatorial.
I suppose. Maybe this is another of those "everyone else puts themselves in the companion's place and I don't" things. Cos while I can see how you see that, I sort of... I dunno, the words aren't quite coming. But I generally can see where he's coming from better than where the companion is, whether it's Donna or Rose or Rory.