I think we may be a bit chalk and cheese where Eight and his companions are concerned - and I'm okay with that.
I've made no secret that I love Charley and make no apologies for that. I can only imagine you have done yourself a mischief by visiting Lucie first, as I find Charley to be as gutsy as all get-up and a character that does get a lot stronger as time goes on (all of which I'll bore you to death with at some point when I get round to giving her an essay space).
Zagreus. I have listened to it many times. At first, I wasn't sure why. Probably for the cameo-nature of the story. I now love it. Everytime I either notice a new cameo person - last time it was the late Elizabeth Sladen I noticed - or a penny drops and a bit more of the story makes sense. It is pretty dense and insanely wierd.
My understanding is that Rassilon pruned the universe so that the majority of life-forms were basic bi-peds, like us. The Divergence represent the evolutionary break-aways that he aborted. He was also trying to stamp out the special bi peds such as the Vampires and the Sisters so that elite Gallifreyans had the edge over everyone. Ask me on a different day and I might tell you something else!
If you enjoyed the Romman/Leela relationship, you might want to look into the Gallifrey series. It is less sci-fi and more political than regular Who, but it sparkles with life and these gals are brilliant leads. They are also joined by 2 x K-9s and some great CIA characters. Also nice to have a story totally based on Gallifrey, and each series adds to a larger story arch.
Scherzo I LOVE. I think it may be my favourtie episode, and I think Rob Shearman is a genius. I like that it's a two hander. I think it's clever that a lot of the dialogue mirrors his other story, Chimes of Midnight. And I happen to like Eight when he's angry. And I think, for being essentially blinded to Time, he has every right to be out-of-sorts at this point. I like the fable about Sound being so deadly that runs parallel to the main content. And that the theme of the Doctor and Charley creating things (children) is reasserted. And the fight. Love it.
I had to laugh when you grumbled about C'Rizz not being spelt logically. I guess the above just looks more pleasing. It does to me, anyway. It took a long time for me to warm up to C'Rizz. I was a bit resentful of him being the gooseberry, but can see why they did it. Even if the Doctor and Charley are in love with each other, and I think they absolutely were, (although the Doctor himself confesses that he doesn't understand what that means) Doctor Who can't turn into a love story. How times have changed!
Anyway, I did give C'Rizz a second chance, and really like him now. I won't say much more about him, as you still may have a lot to go, and he's a complicated fellow.
I agree that the first two stories in the new Universe were a) eww and b) difficult, but both rewarding.
Yes! Mary Shelley! Really excited. And no, I don't think he has had an actual historic figure living about the TARDIS. I think her story will actually appear before Charley's in the timeline of things.
Great review, by the way! Sorry I was such a rambler in my response. :P
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Date: 2011-06-29 08:22 am (UTC)I've made no secret that I love Charley and make no apologies for that. I can only imagine you have done yourself a mischief by visiting Lucie first, as I find Charley to be as gutsy as all get-up and a character that does get a lot stronger as time goes on (all of which I'll bore you to death with at some point when I get round to giving her an essay space).
Zagreus. I have listened to it many times. At first, I wasn't sure why. Probably for the cameo-nature of the story. I now love it. Everytime I either notice a new cameo person - last time it was the late Elizabeth Sladen I noticed - or a penny drops and a bit more of the story makes sense. It is pretty dense and insanely wierd.
My understanding is that Rassilon pruned the universe so that the majority of life-forms were basic bi-peds, like us. The Divergence represent the evolutionary break-aways that he aborted. He was also trying to stamp out the special bi peds such as the Vampires and the Sisters so that elite Gallifreyans had the edge over everyone. Ask me on a different day and I might tell you something else!
If you enjoyed the Romman/Leela relationship, you might want to look into the Gallifrey series. It is less sci-fi and more political than regular Who, but it sparkles with life and these gals are brilliant leads. They are also joined by 2 x K-9s and some great CIA characters. Also nice to have a story totally based on Gallifrey, and each series adds to a larger story arch.
Scherzo I LOVE. I think it may be my favourtie episode, and I think Rob Shearman is a genius. I like that it's a two hander. I think it's clever that a lot of the dialogue mirrors his other story, Chimes of Midnight. And I happen to like Eight when he's angry. And I think, for being essentially blinded to Time, he has every right to be out-of-sorts at this point. I like the fable about Sound being so deadly that runs parallel to the main content. And that the theme of the Doctor and Charley creating things (children) is reasserted. And the fight. Love it.
I had to laugh when you grumbled about C'Rizz not being spelt logically. I guess the above just looks more pleasing. It does to me, anyway. It took a long time for me to warm up to C'Rizz. I was a bit resentful of him being the gooseberry, but can see why they did it. Even if the Doctor and Charley are in love with each other, and I think they absolutely were, (although the Doctor himself confesses that he doesn't understand what that means) Doctor Who can't turn into a love story. How times have changed!
Anyway, I did give C'Rizz a second chance, and really like him now. I won't say much more about him, as you still may have a lot to go, and he's a complicated fellow.
I agree that the first two stories in the new Universe were a) eww and b) difficult, but both rewarding.
Yes! Mary Shelley! Really excited. And no, I don't think he has had an actual historic figure living about the TARDIS. I think her story will actually appear before Charley's in the timeline of things.
Great review, by the way! Sorry I was such a rambler in my response. :P