Neither am I - and let's face it, if there was ever a show with "change" built into it, then it's this one.
Like I've just said to crossoverman upthread, the key term you've both used in your comments is "horror". The scene I'm talking about went out at just before 7.30 pm in a family show.
You know, I think that a five year old would possibly have been less bothered by that scene than a twelve-year-old because the latter would have been able to understand more about what was going on and some of the implications of what they were seeing. I was actually uneasy about letting Cazlet #1 watch it (she was out when it aired) - but I did and she's okay even though she thought it "wasn't very nice". But I can imagine that other girls of her age and perhaps a bit older would have been quite disturbed,
But what I don't get is why you just can't say that you feel uncomfortable about something that is clearly bordering on the horror genre being incorporated into a tea-time family show. That you'd find it uncomfortable viewing at *any* time and appreciate that it's meant to be - but that you have a very real issue with it being on early in the evening
That is the case - I do think it wasn't age appropriate. But it's not just that, and that's what I'm having a hard time trying to work out. Fringe had a pregnancy storyline this season which took a turn for the squicky - and while I was squicked, I was meant to be and I was okay with that. I've seen plenty of telly/films which have employed this plotline - and if I was uncomfortable it was always because I was meant to be, and I was okay with that, too.
It's a debate about what should DW be as a show.
*nods* And as you know, it's a debate that's been raging for years. At the end of the day, right now, it's whatever the showrunner says it is. And the showrunner is someone who is known for wanting to bring it "back to kids". (I know SM hasn't said that directly, but when you listen to him or read what he's said, he's keen to emphasis the fairytale and magical elements and talks about what appeals to kids) - yet that stance is at odds with what I watched on Saturday night.
there enough left for the kids to enjoy?
Another question I was asking myself because all my two wanted to know was "which is the REAL Doctor?" through that last episode, and no amount of my telling them that it didn't matter because they were both the same would satisfy them. And had I not read previews or seen clips, I'd have been hard pressed to work out what was going on at the start of TRF - and I had to explain it to the kids or they wouldn't have understood what was happening.
I know that RTD's DW got dark and addressed adult themes too - but I think he managed to strike a better balance than I'm seeing right now.
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Date: 2011-05-30 10:05 pm (UTC)Neither am I - and let's face it, if there was ever a show with "change" built into it, then it's this one.
Like I've just said to
You know, I think that a five year old would possibly have been less bothered by that scene than a twelve-year-old because the latter would have been able to understand more about what was going on and some of the implications of what they were seeing. I was actually uneasy about letting Cazlet #1 watch it (she was out when it aired) - but I did and she's okay even though she thought it "wasn't very nice". But I can imagine that other girls of her age and perhaps a bit older would have been quite disturbed,
But what I don't get is why you just can't say that you feel uncomfortable about something that is clearly bordering on the horror genre being incorporated into a tea-time family show. That you'd find it uncomfortable viewing at *any* time and appreciate that it's meant to be - but that you have a very real issue with it being on early in the evening
That is the case - I do think it wasn't age appropriate. But it's not just that, and that's what I'm having a hard time trying to work out. Fringe had a pregnancy storyline this season which took a turn for the squicky - and while I was squicked, I was meant to be and I was okay with that. I've seen plenty of telly/films which have employed this plotline - and if I was uncomfortable it was always because I was meant to be, and I was okay with that, too.
It's a debate about what should DW be as a show.
*nods* And as you know, it's a debate that's been raging for years. At the end of the day, right now, it's whatever the showrunner says it is. And the showrunner is someone who is known for wanting to bring it "back to kids". (I know SM hasn't said that directly, but when you listen to him or read what he's said, he's keen to emphasis the fairytale and magical elements and talks about what appeals to kids) - yet that stance is at odds with what I watched on Saturday night.
there enough left for the kids to enjoy?
Another question I was asking myself because all my two wanted to know was "which is the REAL Doctor?" through that last episode, and no amount of my telling them that it didn't matter because they were both the same would satisfy them. And had I not read previews or seen clips, I'd have been hard pressed to work out what was going on at the start of TRF - and I had to explain it to the kids or they wouldn't have understood what was happening.
I know that RTD's DW got dark and addressed adult themes too - but I think he managed to strike a better balance than I'm seeing right now.