DW 6x07 - A Good Man Goes to War
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caz963So, revealed at last, River Song is -
- Amy and Rory's daughter, which seems to have been the option favoured by the majority of posters and commenters I've read over the past few weeks.
But Moff wasn't kidding yesterday when he tweeted "what are you REALLY asking?" - because really, knowing who River IS hasn't made all that much of a difference, has it? And if anything, as is becoming usual with Moff, the answer asks a helluvalot more questions than it does, in fact answer.
The Doctor's reaction to realising that he'd in fact got all flirty and kissyface with Pond minor was quite funny, but there still appears to be a lot more to come in their relationship. But given his very paternal attitude towards Amy, is he going to cool off to River now? I mean, now he knows that one thing I could see him starting to treat River like he treats Amy. But given that the implication is still that what we've seen of their relationship is far from all of it, and River's constant punctuation of her "now look what you've done" speech with the words "my love", it would still seem as though there's some sort of romantic relationship there - which could, of course, be with a future doctor. That was always my supposition until she and Eleven started getting very flirty this series.
Knowing WHO River is in the sense of who her parents are still doesn't tell us all that much about her though, does it? I'm sure there are lots more questions that will be asked in the coming months, but so far I've got these:
How does she come to know the Doctor's name?
If she was kidnapped with a view to using her as a weapon against the Doctor - how come she's fine and dandy now?
Where in her timeline does this episode fall? (I'm still not convinced about the opposite timelines thing)
Who is the "good man" she kills?
Is she the little girl in the spacesuit?
Is she the one who kills the Doctor in TIA?
If that was the Doctor's crib, how come her name was written on it?
If she's got Time Lord DNA, can she regenerate?
Was she the girl in the alley we saw regenerating at the end of DotM?
How can she appear at Amy's wedding when the universe was "rebooted" so in theory, she and Amy wouldn't have met?
And most importantly:
How is this revelation going to change the dynamics of the relationships between these four characters?
If baby Pond/Williams ends up reunited with her parents and living on 21st century Earth - how does she become River Song, 51st Century archaeologist and adventurer?
Also -
who is Eye-Patch Lady (EPL) working for, and how do they know that a baby conceived in the Time Vortex would be possessed of a degree of Timey-Wimeyness?
Where do the Headless Monks fit into all this? And why have the Clerics joined forces with them? Why do they all want to kill the Doctor?
And - we still don't really know how or why the Silence blew up the TARDIS and created the cracks in S5 - always assuming it was them, that is.
I'm also willing to bet that last week wasn't the last we're going to see of the gangers, either.
Questions aside, I thought this was a decent episode which was fairly straighforward (for once), although I do have to admit to thinking that one Silurian, one Sontaran, a couple of Judoon, a handful of pirates and one big blue con-man was a pretty small army to end up with given that Rory and the Doctor were supposedly running around the universe calling in favours. It was rather reminiscent of last year's TPO when we got to see characters from eariler stories again - not that I'm complaining about either, because those are bits I rather enjoyed. (We all cheered at the sight of Hugh Bonneville and his awesome beard!)
My eldest said she thought the Headless Monks that were "unmasked" looked like sacks of potatoes!
Rory was pretty damn awesome though. Yeah, it was cheesy, but where would DW be without a good dollop of gorgonzola now and again? - but I did like the "I'm gonna stand in front of stuff blowing up and look hard" sequence :-)
The baby-gloop thing was pretty yucky, if forseeable.
So basically, the Doctor has brought all this upon himself and his friends. We've got EPL talking about wars and warriors and the Doctor not recognising himself from her description which makes sense. After all, he didn't twig that the fearful being the Pandorica had been built to hold was himself, and Ten hated being called a warrior by the product of his own DNA. And then we've got River telling him that he's caused this through his arrogance and his ability to piss people off. Yeah, I can see that - the Doctor's always been an arrogant git ... it's just what has he done specifically to have brought about these particular events? I think with the Pandorica, it was more of a "you're the Doctor and you've defeated us through the ages one time too many", but I can't think that it's like that this time around. The baddies want a weapon to use against him - and it's a specific weapon, someone with Time Lord DNA who could only have been created by a certain set of circumstances.
Right - I'm tired and I need to sleep. I shall probably have more to say on this once I've thought about it some more.
- Amy and Rory's daughter, which seems to have been the option favoured by the majority of posters and commenters I've read over the past few weeks.
But Moff wasn't kidding yesterday when he tweeted "what are you REALLY asking?" - because really, knowing who River IS hasn't made all that much of a difference, has it? And if anything, as is becoming usual with Moff, the answer asks a helluvalot more questions than it does, in fact answer.
The Doctor's reaction to realising that he'd in fact got all flirty and kissyface with Pond minor was quite funny, but there still appears to be a lot more to come in their relationship. But given his very paternal attitude towards Amy, is he going to cool off to River now? I mean, now he knows that one thing I could see him starting to treat River like he treats Amy. But given that the implication is still that what we've seen of their relationship is far from all of it, and River's constant punctuation of her "now look what you've done" speech with the words "my love", it would still seem as though there's some sort of romantic relationship there - which could, of course, be with a future doctor. That was always my supposition until she and Eleven started getting very flirty this series.
Knowing WHO River is in the sense of who her parents are still doesn't tell us all that much about her though, does it? I'm sure there are lots more questions that will be asked in the coming months, but so far I've got these:
And most importantly:
Also -
And - we still don't really know how or why the Silence blew up the TARDIS and created the cracks in S5 - always assuming it was them, that is.
I'm also willing to bet that last week wasn't the last we're going to see of the gangers, either.
Questions aside, I thought this was a decent episode which was fairly straighforward (for once), although I do have to admit to thinking that one Silurian, one Sontaran, a couple of Judoon, a handful of pirates and one big blue con-man was a pretty small army to end up with given that Rory and the Doctor were supposedly running around the universe calling in favours. It was rather reminiscent of last year's TPO when we got to see characters from eariler stories again - not that I'm complaining about either, because those are bits I rather enjoyed. (We all cheered at the sight of Hugh Bonneville and his awesome beard!)
My eldest said she thought the Headless Monks that were "unmasked" looked like sacks of potatoes!
Rory was pretty damn awesome though. Yeah, it was cheesy, but where would DW be without a good dollop of gorgonzola now and again? - but I did like the "I'm gonna stand in front of stuff blowing up and look hard" sequence :-)
The baby-gloop thing was pretty yucky, if forseeable.
So basically, the Doctor has brought all this upon himself and his friends. We've got EPL talking about wars and warriors and the Doctor not recognising himself from her description which makes sense. After all, he didn't twig that the fearful being the Pandorica had been built to hold was himself, and Ten hated being called a warrior by the product of his own DNA. And then we've got River telling him that he's caused this through his arrogance and his ability to piss people off. Yeah, I can see that - the Doctor's always been an arrogant git ... it's just what has he done specifically to have brought about these particular events? I think with the Pandorica, it was more of a "you're the Doctor and you've defeated us through the ages one time too many", but I can't think that it's like that this time around. The baddies want a weapon to use against him - and it's a specific weapon, someone with Time Lord DNA who could only have been created by a certain set of circumstances.
Right - I'm tired and I need to sleep. I shall probably have more to say on this once I've thought about it some more.
