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It occurred to me a while ago that I may just be in the slightest bit of a rut when it comes to my fangirling choices. I tend to go for the “not-conventionally-handsome but hot-as-hell” types, which is nothing to complain about – but I worry about these things, so I thought that, in the interests of clarity, and of making sure that my choices are valid, I should attempt to make a serious study of said not-conventionally-handsome-but-hot-as-hell types.

Just for my own peace of mind, you understand.

Then, on hearing that two of my dearest friends have been having rather a crappy time of it lately, I thought – what better way to help cheer them up than by doing a picspam of obscene amounts of prettiness!

So I made a list, drew an organisational chart with arrows and everything - and drew a venn diagram. Because I’m a geek scientific like that. And – what a surprise! – look what happened. *g*

Dedicated to [livejournal.com profile] zinke and [livejournal.com profile] hooloovoo_42. [livejournal.com profile] kiss_me_cassie egged me on, so if you spontaneously combust, you can blame her, okay?

Without further ado – I bring you David and Brad (in various guises) – two amazingly talented actors who also happen to be able to turn sensible women into puddles of lust.



By the way - the majority of the WW and S60 caps are pretty dark, compared to the DW ones - but then the TWW ones are much older. It's not your eyes or screen, it's just the way they are - sorry.

Let’s start off gently, shall we?

They both have rather crazy hair at times





They have the best puppy-dog eyes in the business





They’re amusing drunks





They both have lovely hands





(let your imaginations run riot, ladies, you know you want to!)

They're both very good at ... er... *melts*





They both have a Donna!





(Is there anyone reading this that doesn’t know that a)David and Catherine are huge fans of TWW and b) When asked what other TV show she’d liked to have been in, Catherine said “West Wing or Studio 60”, to which David commented, “ah, that’s because you wanted to be Bradley Whitford’s girlfriend”?)

They’re both quite… bendy ;-)





They both seem to have a bit of an oral fixation





When it comes to suffering, they can break our hearts and look utterly beautiful while they do it









The "don't fuck with me" faces are pretty hot











They get hostile when hostility is called for





They’re both huggers









They both have a smile that can light up a room





… and dimples to die for





Their smirks have been known to cause fangirl implosion at fifty paces









They both have an utterly irresistible grin





They both look hot in specs







- and cool in shades





… and can induce fangirl death by looking over the top of said glasses





They have a nice line in “come hither” looks (although I have to admit that I think David wins hands down on this one – go here if you need further proof!)









The way they look at "their women" has reduced us to puddles of fangirly goo on many an occasion





They could win trophies for snogging













While in some cases, their fashion sense can leave a lot to be desired –





It’s not really like we’re paying much attention to the clothes, are we?

*stares at the freckles*

At their best though – they can both work a pair of jeans





Not bad for a man in his jim-jams





Or in a tux





And I think, in the interest of completeness, I should include “The Tony Bennett thing” from the end of the evening





They both look really good in a nice suit.





Or, indeed – out of one!





I hope that's given everyone something to... er... think about!

Caps are from various places, including screenmusings, jems, Sonic Biro, The Medusa Cascade and Demon-cry.net and the BBC DW website.

And also enabled by various LJ friends including [livejournal.com profile] chloris67, [livejournal.com profile] coloneljack, [livejournal.com profile] dana_cz, [livejournal.com profile] crossmymind and others. If I’ve used something of yours and not credited you, I apologise; let me know, and I’ll fix it.

Date: 2010-03-17 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zinke.livejournal.com
sensible women

Hey! Who you calling 'sensible'?!? *g*

I find it weird that their hostile faces are so eerily similar.

And now I am off to find a corner in which I can safely melt into a puddle of goo.
Edited Date: 2010-03-17 07:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-17 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
Well, sensible as we ever get, I suppose :-)

Ive been looking at them all day, it's a wonder I can type straight!

Glad you liked it, love. *hugs*

Date: 2010-03-17 07:35 pm (UTC)
hooloovoo_42: (M&B Hugg)
From: [personal profile] hooloovoo_42
*iz goo*

Totally!

That's all!

This post has been brought to you from beyond the grave, cos I is ded of teh pretty.

Date: 2010-03-17 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
:-)

RIP. Where shall I send the flowers?

Date: 2010-03-17 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiss-me-cassie.livejournal.com
THIS is really something I needed this afternoon. SO MUCH. Thank you!

Date: 2010-03-17 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
Oh, it's so tough, looking at all those pictures. I'm a martyr, really I am...

Glad it helped, even a little bit!

*hugs*

Date: 2010-03-17 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowydragon1776.livejournal.com
This is awesome. They are both very handsome.

Date: 2010-03-17 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
They are :) I've decided that if I am in a rut, it's a bloody nice rut to be in!

Thanks for stopping by.

Date: 2010-03-19 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowydragon1776.livejournal.com
I'd say the perfect rut to be in ;-)

Date: 2010-03-18 04:27 am (UTC)
ext_2188: Rodney McKay solemnly swears he is up to no good (TWW_JoshandDonna)
From: [identity profile] lurkmuch.livejournal.com
My goodness, but that's a lot of prettiness! This has certainly brightened my whole day...

Date: 2010-03-18 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
Then my work here is done :-)

Date: 2010-03-18 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-lilith.livejournal.com
Oh wow

Im interested. Is it Josh who is attractive or is it Brad? And I understand it is DT who is attractive but is that why The Doctor is attractive?

I know the point isnt serious discussion, (and i can only do this cos it is the third time I have looked at the pictures) but some of those things are just Josh. Or just The Doctor. Where is the attractive coming from?

I was trying to explain my DT problem to someone who didnt know who he was (they were from another country) and they said they needed to see a picture and i heard myself say "well you might not be able to tell he is attractive just by looking at him" Doh! "i mean...it would be best if you could see him move about." Cos really, he isnt what we conventionally find attractive. A sensible part of my brain acknowledges that. Although I've never found those chiseled leading men types particularly compelling.

So i love Josh,( I love Josh like I loved John Carter from ER) but i dont really care for BW. I mean yeah he is good looking and i was impressed that Danny wasnt Josh in a way some actors dont seem to be able to manage. But i didnt really care about Danny. So what is it that I find attractive?

Where I would watch DT read the phone book out (I saw LA without a map, that was as equally interesting as the phone book would be) i dont love the doctor like i love Josh. I only really cared about Peter Carlise because he looked like David Tennant (and licked his fingers a lot). So what is it I find attractive?

Throughout my devotion to John Carter I never wanted to see Noah Wyle do anything else. I wasn't him I was interested in. As my Grannie would say about men when all you knew about them was that they were good looking "he could gan hyam and the kick the cat hinnie". Why am I interested in David Tennant? Like interested enough to sit through the Quatermass experiment? What is it he brings to the way he animates a character that is compelling to me? Is it just that he is a pretty man? Or does something of his character shine through and is that what is attractive? Is it because he seems like a lovely bloke in the stuff he does as himself?

That is waffly. I have been undoing a tangled ball of yarn for two days and am very tired. My apologies.

Date: 2010-03-18 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
I know the point isnt serious discussion,

Why not? *g* I don't mind at all. It's such a personal thing. Someone on my flist had to ban a troll a few weeks back who, having looked at one or more of her wonderful DT picspams ended up by saying "I don't know how anyone can find him attractive". My reaction to that would be to find that person, kick their dog and break their white stick, but then I look at Leonardo di Caprio and go "eeew". I heard yesterday that a recent survey says that women prefer baby-faced men these days to the more rugged types.

Huh? Nobody asked me the question!

I think that what you say about both of them being attractive when in character because something of them shines through is actually very true. I think there's a helluva lot of Brad in Josh, and David brought that incredible enthusiasm and energy that he seems to have IRL to the Doctor. Both of them seem to be very grounded individuals who have a healthy attitude to their profession - they're not pretentious, they know it's a job and they do it very well. When I met Brad a couple of years back, he was terrific - charming, funny - everything you'd expect - but I know that was him still "in work mode"; meeting and talking to fans is part of the job. I've not met David (sadly) but I'm sure he's the same.

I totally get what you say about not being able to tell that someone's attractive from a photo, in the sense that I think both fellas are best seen in motion! But seriously, how could someone look at that pic of David glaring at the camera as Brendan Block, or sitting in front of those mirrors with the bedroom eyes and not think he's hot as hell?

WHY is he labelled "not conventionally handsome"? (I'm going to talk about David, because I can't forgive Brad for the awful moustache he's sprouted!) The whole "conventionally handsome" thing bugs me. I mean, what is that? Brad Pitt? (meh.) Tom Cruise (double meh.) George Clooney? Now we're talking. He's about the only man I'd describe in that way that I actually find attractive. Otherwise, I like the smart, funny types.
David's very skinny, which I can understand some women not liking. But he buffs up VERY nicely, as shown in that last pic! He has a nicely shaped face - well defined cheekbones, a strong chin, a gorgeous mouth and those beautiful deep-set eyes. The dimples and the freckles are a nice bonus if they're your sort of thing. His features are uneven, yes, but I think it makes him interesting.

I love Ten. Absolutely adore him. I'm still upset he's gone, but it's not David, it's the character I miss so much. David's busy, he's got loads of projects on the go and he'll be gracing our tellyboxes for years to come, I don't doubt. But God, I miss Ten. I've posted about it here a couple of times, trying to explain why I was (and still am!) so devastated at his departure. And I'm waffling now, so please feel free to check those posts out and we can continue this not-serious-discussion!

I suppose in the end, all we have to do is remember that old adage that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I think David Tennant's one of the most gorgeous men I've ever seen and I'll just feel smug and superior to those poor deluded women who can't see it!

Date: 2010-03-19 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-lilith.livejournal.com
When i say I dont love Ten like Josh I had to think about whether i really meant it. And i decided i did. I would have loved Josh had i met him, and John Carter. They were well written, well acted, characters which I believed in. They were smart funny men who struggled to live honourably in the midst of compromise in the world i also inhabit.

So Yes Ten is loveable. Utterly lovelable. And he is no less well written or acted. But he is alien. He is fantastic and impossible. He doesnt live in the same world. He can commit genocide but cant tell a girl he loves her. He is funny and charming but can grow another hand. He loves his friends but he cant resist pushing buttons which could lead to their death. It is a painful bit of self knowledge but if the TARDIS landed in my living room i wouldnt go. If Josh or John turned up I wouldn't stop to pack a bag (although you would have to hit Josh on the back of the head CJ style and make him go back to Donna).

Date: 2010-03-19 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
If Josh or John turned up I wouldn't stop to pack a bag (although you would have to hit Josh on the back of the head CJ style and make him go back to Donna).

Hahahah! Yes, so true!

Date: 2010-03-18 09:55 pm (UTC)
hooloovoo_42: (Brad Strips!)
From: [personal profile] hooloovoo_42
Hmmmm! Interesting question.

One of the things I noticed about Brad/Josh/Danny is that some of those mannerisms, although he used them in different ways, are *totally* Brad. Like Caz, I met Brad a couple of years ago when we saw him in "Boeing, Boeing". There were still a lot of ways he moved as yet another character that were just *him*. And he is gorgeous and witty and charming (yes, in work mode) in real life - and has a well developed sense of humour, which is another thing that I find unbelievably sexy. Also, loves his kids to bits!

Even when he's doing things like appearing in congressional hearings, when he was clearly as nervous as a very nervous thing, he had passion and poise. When he spoke at the Princeton Commencement ceremony, he was inspiring.

Yes, I like conventionally good looking blokes. I need to get Patrick Dempsey up on my "Wall of Hot" sometime soon, along with Fox Mulder, Indiana Jones, Cary Grant and the rest, but I think guys like Brad and David are more attractive for being incredibly intelligent and amazing people as much as being brilliantly talented actors who are also gorgeous.

With you onn the John Carter/Noah Wyle thing. I fancied Carter like mad. Noah, not so much.

I'm not sure whether I've answered your question, but I like contemplating the evidence :-)

Date: 2010-03-18 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
I like conventionally good looking blokes

Me too - but they don't have the same effect on me!

I'd argue that David Duchovny actually falls into the not-conventional category, but whatever, he's nice to look at :-) Patrick Dempsey doesn't do it for me, I'm afraid, although I did like him in Enchanted and can see that he's attractive.

I think we owe it to ourselves to contemplate evidence like this.

Date: 2010-03-18 10:17 pm (UTC)
hooloovoo_42: (Josh Coffee)
From: [personal profile] hooloovoo_42
I think we owe it to ourselves to contemplate evidence like this.

Indeed!

Date: 2010-03-19 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-lilith.livejournal.com
This is fun.

In the interests of scientific enquiry i have some questions:
1) Ten is hot in specs, peter carlise is hot in specs, is Chris from learners hot in specs?

2) Would Ten be hot if played, to the same script, by:
a) Martin Clunes?
b) Rupert Penry-Jones?
c) Richard Armitage?
d) Bill Bailey?
e) Daniel Craig?

this is science we owe it to ourselves to contemplate the evidence :o)

Date: 2010-03-19 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
Oh, blimey!

1) I think most cute guys look hot in specs :) Chris' were less geeky though, weren't they? (Even though Chris himself looks more like a geek!) And he's not supposed to be hot (until he takes them off) is he? I've not seen it for ages, so I might have to watch it again to make sure! Oddly enough, David's own glasses are a bit more like Chris' in the S2 video diaries, but by S3 he's acquired the ones he has now (or very like them) which are almost identical to Ten's specs. Peter's were geeky too, weren't they? It must be something about a good-looking bloke in hornrims, then... hm.

2)Bill Bailey?! Bwahahah!

The answer is probably not, because he'd be completely different if played by any of those actors. As with Brad and Josh, so much of David is Ten that it's very hard to separate the two and imagine someone else saying the same lines and doing all the running,

Also - and I have no evidence to back this up, so it's just a hunch from reading/listening between the lines - I think that Ten many well have been written with David firmly in mind, which skews things a bit. It's so completely tailored to what he can do, he, Russell and Julie had already collaborated on Casanova (where there are definite flashes of Ten), and I get the impression (again, no evidence) that they offered him the part before they approached anyone else. I'm sure they had back-up options in case he turned them down, but I reckon he was top of their list.

I suppose what I was trying to say before when I said that I miss Ten rather than David is that I miss David's Doctor, because of what he brought to the character - and I'm not just talking about his looks. I'll miss his amazing range of facial expressions, his joy, his abrupt mood swings, his grace and dexterity and his ego... oh, and the coat. God, I loved that coat.

Date: 2010-03-19 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-lilith.livejournal.com
I rather thought Bill Bailey was an inspired piece of casting on my part!!

But in the science of what is attractiveness, why don't you see fan girl art about poor Chris? I don't think it is because most of the fangirls are Americans and they haven't seen it. And yet, m'dears He Looks LIke David Tennant.

I think Bill bailey would have a better chance of making it work than Daniel Craig. That would have been a bad day for Rose tho!

Yes I love how graceful he makes the doctor. I think the coat just highlights that, it is so swooshy. The Odd planet big grabber chase, I Love he way he lands, in big puddle of coat.

Date: 2010-03-19 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
The Odd planet big grabber chase, I Love he way he lands, in big puddle of coat.

THIS.

And the way he bounces off the corners and containers!

I have no idea about the lack of swooniness about Chris, because he does, as you say, look like that tall, gorgeous, skinny Scottish bloke off the telly! And he's a sweet character, which can't be said of Brendan, who is sex on a stick. In a way, I suppose it's testament to David's ability as an actor that even though he's gorgeous he can somehow cut across that and make people forget that fact! Or at least, see past it.

Date: 2010-03-19 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-lilith.livejournal.com
Ok I have anaysled your list. (as i have time on my hands) There should be venn diagrams cos some things are more than one box but i have classified them thus:

(b) crazy hair
(b) best puppy-dog eyes
($) amusing drunks
(b) lovely hands
(a) good at ... er... *melts*
($) Donna!
(b) They’re both quite… bendy ;-)
(*) oral fixation
(a) suffering, and looking utterly beautiful
(a) hot "don't fuck with me" faces
($) hostile when hostility is called for
($) huggers
(*) smile that can light up a room
(b) dimples to die for
(*) smirks of fangirl implosion
(*) utterly irresistible grin
(b) hot in specs
(b) cool in shades
(*) looking over the top of said glasses
(*) “come hither” looks
(a) The way they look at "their women"
(*) trophies for snogging
(*) fashion sense
(b) freckles
(*) can both work a pair of jeans, jim-jams or tux
(*)“The Tony Bennett thing” from the end of the evening
(b) good in a nice suit.
(b) and out of one!

b= body. You either have freckes or you dont. It is just what you got
$- stuff the characters do
a- acting
if you take that away that stuff
you are left with *
which i was calling the way they work it.

And funny but those are things best seen in motion. It isn't about what they have, it is about what they do.

And i wonder, your classic pin up blokes haven't learnt to do those things. That is why they are dull. If Tennant is to be believed, nobody thought he was hot before DW. I have a theory that he spent his teenage years being a bloke not unlike Chris and learnt to do those things. And it is those things that make him a bloke with such sex appeal that Lesbians forget they are Lesbians for a while when listening to him on the radio. (Seriously. Lesbians told me)

And being secure in that ( or not needing the acclaim in the first place) he can not do it. Chris is adorable. He is mainly adorable cos they have written him like that but it also must be the way he chooses to animate him. Tennant is doing a odd jaw jutting thing that makes him kinda nerdy. And the grace that characterises Ten is deliberately absent, or misdirected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Evw4oijGk
He just isnt working it. and that is magic isnt it. We are being fooled with mirrors.

I'm not sure what my point is. Id run off with Chris in a instant but i think it is cos i know I could mess his hair up.

Brendan Block reminds me of an ex boyfriend, gives me creeps.


Date: 2010-03-20 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
I must go back and re-read some of his interviews... I mean, he's clearly well aware that women find him attractive, although I can quite believe that he's competely bemused by it!

If Tennant is to be believed, nobody thought he was hot before DW

I really sat up and took notice when he was in Casanova. I'd seen him in a few other things but he seems to have played a string of creeps and/or nutters, but in that he was funny, charming, incredibly sexy (of course), vulnerable, cheeky and loveable. Of course much of that was due to the way the character was written, in that RTD had chosen to show us a man who genuinely liked women, rather than someone who just used them. And it wasn't about the snogging or the shagging - it was all the stuff I just listed which just floored me, and I've stayed that way about him ever since.
I know RTD said somewhere (I've been trying to find it, but can't) that they cast David (in Casanova) because they didn't want someone "conventionally handsome" (there's that stupid phrase again), because the character was supposed to be about all the other things that made women fall for him, not just his looks.

I want to mess Chris's hair up too :)

Date: 2010-03-19 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frakup.livejournal.com
Wandered over here from tennant_report and just wanted to say thank you. This is genius.

Date: 2010-03-19 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
You're more than welcome! It's such a difficult job looking at pictures of gorgeous men, so it's nice to know that my hours of toil are appreciated. *g*

Date: 2010-03-19 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-lilith.livejournal.com
it is a tough job, Im so glad you do it so I dont have to.

Date: 2010-06-05 04:12 am (UTC)
sykira: (Brilliant!)
From: [personal profile] sykira
Woah, you pic spammed comparative Josh and Ten? I think I love you. I can't believe I almost missed this, i am going to friend you, I hope that's okay.

So much insight and genius in this, I especially loved their hostile / storm expressions and puppy dog eyes!

I LOLed at them both having a Donna! It's probably good for DT's ego that you didn't use a cap of BW from XF though, cause yeah, ::HOT:: and very much built!

Date: 2010-06-05 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caz963.livejournal.com
Heheheee! Yes, I did - it's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it, right?

Friend away - the more the merrier!

It's probably good for DT's ego that you didn't use a cap of BW from XF though

I admit, I'm not such a fan of the dirty and sweaty - I far prefer the shots of Brad auctioning off his clothes ;-)

Glad you liked it - there are various pretty picspams around here somewhere (I really should make a list!) so feel free to poke around.

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