I've seen theories that she's everyone from Romana to the Doctor to River to Amy herself. (But...that means she would have possibly given birth to herself, if the photos are half right--ow) I'm surprised nobody has claimed The Rani as an option yet.
I haven't seen the one that says she's Amy, but yeah, I've seen the rest. And then there's the one where she's the product of Doctor/River and Amy/Rory.
And the one where she's Donna, after getting her memory back, regenerating, and de-aging, while at the same time being Romana. That was an extremely short-lived theory, from what I saw.
I have only just seen the end of the episode, but - and I don't know how this works - but she is Amy's daughter, but also part-Time Lord? The scanner that said she was both pregnant and not pregnant is making me think this. Because I both am and am not confused.
I suspect that the Amy - pregnant or not? - is completely unrelated to this Time-Miss, but the juxtaposition of scenes is meant to make us think that way. It's a typical Moffat mind-fuck and if he's not careful, we're all going to get tired of them pretty quickly!
I think the problem now is, it's impossible to know how long Moffat has planned for this story to last, so I'm having trouble judging any of it, since it's not over yet.
I don't think those two things can be entirely unrelated, or else the Time-Miss is completely random. And there are still unanswered questions (surprise, surprise) about Amy's adventures in the orphanage.
I'm thinking Eleven and River right now, but who knows. I definitely think that just because there's a picture of Amy holding a baby doesn't mean that Amy's the mother of said baby. xD
And are we quite sure that it's Amy?- I've recently spent a long time looking at a modern copy of a photograph of a relation - the only clue that it isn't a picture of her grand-daughter is the colour of the original from which the copy was made, and the hairstyles of the older people in the photograph. (The reason that her own hairstyle isn't a giveawy is that her rather youthful hairstlye (then) is far more seen in adults now
Ahah! But the scene was in comparative darkness, wasn't it? My own example was that the old original was in brown, whereas the modern copy was in black and white
Went to reply to your reaction post and saw this...
*head explodes*
My god, I hope not. Classic Who is the only refuge I have left once I'm done watching the brain hurt that has been S6 so far.
Still, along the lines of crack theories, I take nothing for granted. Moffat could very well say that nothing in S5 or 6 ever happened and decided to start over again with a new Eleven. Or maybe that Eleven is the last Doctor we'll ever see and sabotage the BBC to keep his will. *headdesk* He would do that too. I can't expect anything out of him other than a complete brain meltdown.
Heh. I'm not sure what's more alarming - the fact that I came up with such a crackpot theory or the fact that it's even within the realm of possibility!
I admit that I was being totally facetious with this, because I got the feeling the Moff was pretty much dead set against bringing back too many characters from Who PM (pre-Moffat) ;-)
Given what we know the logical possibility is that it's Jenny - it was SM after all, who persuaded Rusty to bring her back to life at the end of TDD. I don't necessarily think he had this in mind all along, but he may well now be making use of his suggestion.
I suppose that sometimes, even with him, the most logical explanation can be the right one.
Oh! Crackpot theory party? I love those. Hmm... let me see....
I know! Because the Master is one of the three main villains to always show up to a DW party, he's obviously escaped the "huh?" factor that was EoT and Rassilon, fell back into '69 as a pile of goo, and took over the body of the girl and is now regenerating! Or maybe it's Sally Sparrow...or Reinette! *goes through list of Moffat's characters* The problem with crack theories is that they never end! Or real theories. Worst yet, they are all entirely possible!
Oh, best one! The Doctor Donna! How's that? ;) (Not that I think Moffat ever liked Donna considering how he tried to get her out of the way in S4's SitL/FotD as quickly as he could to make way for River and the Doctor.)
I got the feeling the Moff was pretty much dead set against bringing back too many characters from Who PM
I get that feeling too. He still has the Daleks, although they changed color, and River Song but that was his creation. Sure he brought back most of the villains in cameo appearances in TPO except that hardly counts. It's a shame he'll be head when the fiftieth anniversary comes around (most likely at least). I know I just read an article somewhere about how Eccleston would not come back as Nine for a reunion ep. How sad.
Didn't know that about Jenny. Who knows what's going on in that strange brain of his anyway? *headdesk* Can I just know the ending now and be done with it?
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Date: 2011-05-01 09:28 pm (UTC)I don't think those two things can be entirely unrelated, or else the Time-Miss is completely random. And there are still unanswered questions (surprise, surprise) about Amy's adventures in the orphanage.
Heh.
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Date: 2011-05-01 03:39 am (UTC)AMY/DONNA BABY.
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Date: 2011-05-01 05:30 pm (UTC)Brain-breaking can be good, but I'm not sure that this might not be a break-too-far!
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Date: 2011-05-03 03:15 am (UTC)Amy/Donna baby would be absolutely bonkers and still completely amazing. Unfortunately, sounds more like a crack fic than a Moffat story.
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Date: 2011-05-01 05:28 pm (UTC)** Which didn't therefore show us her hair colour.
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Date: 2011-05-01 08:01 pm (UTC)My own example was that the old original was in brown, whereas the modern copy was in black and white
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Date: 2011-05-02 06:43 pm (UTC)If Moff is going to completely fuck with DW like that... I might stop watching :(
There is no need to fold the Whoniverse in on itself like that.
Sorry to be a nay-sayer, but it's not cool, it's not fun it's not even crack... its just WRONG (like Jack Harkness)... I will stop watching over that.
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Date: 2011-05-03 03:26 am (UTC)*head explodes*
My god, I hope not. Classic Who is the only refuge I have left once I'm done watching the brain hurt that has been S6 so far.
Still, along the lines of crack theories, I take nothing for granted. Moffat could very well say that nothing in S5 or 6 ever happened and decided to start over again with a new Eleven. Or maybe that Eleven is the last Doctor we'll ever see and sabotage the BBC to keep his will. *headdesk* He would do that too. I can't expect anything out of him other than a complete brain meltdown.
And I'm rather fond of my brain too....
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Date: 2011-05-03 06:45 pm (UTC)I admit that I was being totally facetious with this, because I got the feeling the Moff was pretty much dead set against bringing back too many characters from Who PM (pre-Moffat) ;-)
Given what we know the logical possibility is that it's Jenny - it was SM after all, who persuaded Rusty to bring her back to life at the end of TDD. I don't necessarily think he had this in mind all along, but he may well now be making use of his suggestion.
I suppose that sometimes, even with him, the most logical explanation can be the right one.
(Although I doubt it.)
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Date: 2011-05-04 03:22 am (UTC)I know! Because the Master is one of the three main villains to always show up to a DW party, he's obviously escaped the "huh?" factor that was EoT and Rassilon, fell back into '69 as a pile of goo, and took over the body of the girl and is now regenerating! Or maybe it's Sally Sparrow...or Reinette! *goes through list of Moffat's characters* The problem with crack theories is that they never end! Or real theories. Worst yet, they are all entirely possible!
Oh, best one! The Doctor Donna! How's that? ;) (Not that I think Moffat ever liked Donna considering how he tried to get her out of the way in S4's SitL/FotD as quickly as he could to make way for River and the Doctor.)
I get that feeling too. He still has the Daleks, although they changed color, and River Song but that was his creation. Sure he brought back most of the villains in cameo appearances in TPO except that hardly counts. It's a shame he'll be head when the fiftieth anniversary comes around (most likely at least). I know I just read an article somewhere about how Eccleston would not come back as Nine for a reunion ep. How sad.
Didn't know that about Jenny. Who knows what's going on in that strange brain of his anyway? *headdesk* Can I just know the ending now and be done with it?
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